We talk to Aisha Dew of the Higher Heights for America PAC and Patrick Sebastian of Tar Heel Targeting about the abortion bill that's awaiting Gov. Roy Cooper's veto and the reaction in the political world after former President Donald Trump was found liable for sexual assault and defamation. Plus, we bring on our messaging gurus Billy Warden of GBW Strategies and Brian Lewis of New Frame to talk about how both sides are trying to frame those issues.