Just weeks after No Labels announced it would not have a presidential ticket, one of the original leaders of the third party joins host Tim Boyum to talk about why.

Former North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory discusses the failed effort and whether a third party ever has a chance of success in our country.

Later, the two talk about the North Carolina governor’s race and McCrory’s new job as a TV host on the new PBS show, Unspun.

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With the speed of the local news cycle, it's easy to forget that the politicians who represent us and the influencers in our communities are more than just a sound bite. North Carolina’s veteran reporter and anchor, Tim Boyum, loosens his signature bow tie to give listeners a glimpse behind the curtain, showing us who these power players really are and why they do what they do. Through Tim’s candid conversations on “Tying It Together,” his guests reveal their most fascinating life stories, passions, and help all of us get a better grasp on the issues affecting our communities.

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