Thursday marked day two of testimony in a Texas case asking the court to clarify when a medical emergency justifies an abortion.
Fifteen women sued the state alleging Texas abortion laws put their lives in jeopardy. Under state law, abortions are legal if the patient's life is at risk, but doctors testified Thursday that's not clearly defined.
Doctors who perform abortions could face life in prison and fines of up to $100,000 dollars. Opponents of the law say that's left many women with providers who are unwilling to even discuss terminating a pregnancy.
"What has happened is that the law has paralyzed us from being able to feel like we can properly counsel and advise patients on how they can get the best medical care at this time," said Dr. Austin Dennard, an OB-GYN in Austin who traveled out of state to receive abortion care for a nonviable pregnancy.
The state is seeking to dismiss the lawsuit. It put forward its own expert witness Thursday who agreed doctors are fearful and confused. But she says the accountability lies with medical associations and hospital management.
"Unfortunately, I've seen doctors say that they can't intervene until there's an immediate risk. This is further demonstration they have not read the law carefully," said. Dr. Ingrid Skop, a San Antonio OB-GYN who is also vice-president and director of medical affairs for the anti-abortion Charlotte Lozier Institute.
The lead plaintiff in this case, Amanda Zurawski, testified Wednesday that she developed sepsis and nearly died after being refused an abortion when her water broke at 18 weeks.
“It was horrible. It was incredibly traumatic. I said yesterday at the press conference that I survived sepsis and yesterday was no less traumatic,” she said in an interview on Capital Tonight Thursday.
Lawyers for the state asked each of the women who testified the same questions: "Did Attorney General Ken Paxton tell you you couldn’t get an abortion? Did anyone, working in any capacity for the state, tell you you couldn’t get an abortion?"
Zurwaski answered no in court.
“Of course they didn’t call and tell me that I couldn’t get an abortion, but that’s a ridiculous question,” she said. “It certainly felt like they told me directly that I couldn’t get an abortion because they are the ones that passed these laws.”
Click the video link above to watch our full interview with Zurawski.