It is a question that may never be answered: where does downstate end and upstate begin? We all have different opinions, but I think we can all agree that upstate definitely does not begin in Ithaca. That is the answer Democratic candidate for governor Cynthia Nixon gave when asked the question. Despite her lack of upstate knowledge, she did earn the endorsement of Citizen Action this week. Could this lead the way for a Working Families Party endorsement? Joining us to talk more about this and other news are the political Insiders: Brendan Quinn is a former Executive Director of the state Republican Party and is now a private consultant. Bruce Gyory served as a senior adviser to two Democratic governors and works at Manatt, Phelps and Phillips.